Um, there is a much more appropriate way to remove the clock in ircii with the clock command. I believe it is /set clock off imagine that. I will include my .ircrc file below which will make some of the defaults more enjoyable like paging output and the like. You will have to change some of the options for your own tastes. Kirk BIND ^I PARSE_COMMAND ^tk.getmsg 1 $tk.msglist BIND ^R PARSE_COMMAND ^tk.getmsg -1 $tk.msglist BIND META1-O META2_CHARACTER BIND META1-[ META2_CHARACTER BIND META2-A BACKWARD_HISTORY BIND META2-B FORWARD_HISTORY BIND META2-C FORWARD_CHARACTER BIND META2-D BACKWARD_CHARACTER SET CLOCK OFF SET HOLD_MODE ON SET LOG ON SET LOGFILE .irclog SET NOVICE OFF SET REALNAME Always in the dark! SET SHOW_STARS OFF set status_user "" ASSIGN NEWAWAY.WHOIS 0 -- Kirk Reiser The Computer Braille Facility e-mail: kirk at braille.uwo.ca University of Western Ontario phone: (519) 661-3061