Yes indeed, there is life after Debian. Makes me wonder if there was really any life before then! I appreciate all your help, Kirk, and will soon be back to where I was a week ago before my unsuccessful Slackware upgrade effort. I decided What I needed was a clean install, and instead of going with Slackware again, I jumped ship and started with Shane's Debian startup CD, which was without a doubt the smoothest installation I have ever seen. But the Debian environment is dramatically different from the Slackware environment, or at least that is the case as far as configuration, so I floundered and bungled and spluttered did a lot of RTFM-ing. But my email now works with exim4, my kernel is 2.6.11.6, my speakfreely is recompiled and working, and on and on. Chuck -- The Moon is Waxing Crescent (10% of Full) "Things are in the saddle, and they ride mankind." Ralph Waldo Emerson Visit my download site at http://www.mhcable.com/~chuckh