I think "corporate citizenship", or put more crudely, "business ethics" (or the lack thereof) were at issue. Nick On Thu, 7 Apr 2005 23:47:43 -0500 (CDT), Cheryl Homiak wrote: I'm jumping in on this thread so I'm not sure what ocasioned the statement that "freedombox is no better than freedom scientific". If you are doing a comparison of freedombox vs. jaws, in my opinion, you are comparing oranges to apples in the first place; since I haven't used JAWS, I can't comment any further in this area. However, I will say that there are numerrous websites that I can't access or can't fully use with any tool I have in linux that work quite well for me using freedombox. So--better than freedom scientific? That's not a comparison I am able to talk about. But a useful tool: yes indeed, at least for my purposes. If you are looking for one tool to do everything you want done, that replaces everything else and removes all obstacles, I don't think it exists at this point. Part of the skill of being a linux user--and maybe even a linux/Windows user--is knowing what tool to employ under what circumstances. I do know that if i suddenly couldn't use freedombox any more as of tomorrow there would be several sites that would be completely unmanageable for me and several others that could be managed by other methods but which much greater difficulty. I guess what I'm trying to say is that, depending on your needs, a choice of tools that work for you may be more "which one when" rather than "either/or" or "better/worse". -- Cheryl "Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also." _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup at braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup