Yeah, Sina. If we go there, then we almost have to say you can never get as proficient, unless you're under the age of 10 when you start. Still, there are people that master difficult skills--whether manual, intellectual, or some kind of psycho-muscular combination. Language is a good example. By and large, most of us never really get comfortable with a foreign language unless we start very young. If we do start young, we might be as good as native in multiple languages. Still, there are those adults who get so good they really come very close. Sina Bahram writes: > Hi Janina, > > Because of trained muscle memory and experience using those pathways in the > brain. > > I do agree it's pretty OT, but it is interesting from a cognative psychology > and human computer interaction point of view. > > Take care, > Sina > > -----Original Message----- > From: speakup-bounces at braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces at braille.uwo.ca] > On Behalf Of Janina Sajka > Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 11:39 PM > To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. > Subject: Re: dvorak > > Well, it's probably quite OT, but I don't see how using experienced typists > discredits anything. I should think it's the other way around. > > Sina Bahram writes: > > Hi Janina, > > > > This is besides the point because I'm guessing that Igore is already > > used to qerty, but I believe those tests were disputed because they > > were done with individuals who already knew qwerty? > > > > If one starts out using vorak ... I don't know: I mean: qwerty was > > developed to be inefficient in the first place. > > > > Take care, > > Sina > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: speakup-bounces at braille.uwo.ca > > [mailto:speakup-bounces at braille.uwo.ca] > > On Behalf Of Janina Sajka > > Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 9:32 PM > > To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. > > Subject: Re: dvorak > > > > Just curious as to why you think it's useful to learn Dvorak? Are you > > aware the U.S. Navy did extensive typing tests between qwerty and > > dvorak and found almost nodifference in speed and eficiency? > > > > Igor Gueths writes: > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > > Hash: RIPEMD160 > > > > > > Hi all. I was briefly playing with the Dvorak layout, and find that > > > I'm going to see if I can't learn it. I take it I would have to > > > somewhat > > modify the sort of table of keycodes to Speakup commands which I > > believe is contained in speakup.c? Its been a while since I've looked. > > > - -- > > > How many chunks could checkchunk check if checkchunck could check > chunks? > > > - -- Alan Cox > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (GNU/Linux) > > > > > > iD8DBQFCVGH0Nohoaf1zXJMRAw5vAKCKV1Nb+D88MvX0c5w3Z776pl6HCgCfYPQi > > > Sb3Oaqql0wgsnxa+PiIPRvU= > > > =JghD > > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > -- > > > > Janina Sajka Phone: +1.202.494.7040 > > Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC http://www.CapitalAccessibility.Com > > > > Chair, Accessibility Workgroup Free Standards Group (FSG) > > janina at freestandards.org http://a11y.org > > > > If Linux can't solve your computing problem, you need a different problem. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > -- > > Janina Sajka Phone: +1.202.494.7040 > Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC http://www.CapitalAccessibility.Com > > Chair, Accessibility Workgroup Free Standards Group (FSG) > janina at freestandards.org http://a11y.org > > If Linux can't solve your computing problem, you need a different problem. > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Janina Sajka Phone: +1.202.494.7040 Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC http://www.CapitalAccessibility.Com Chair, Accessibility Workgroup Free Standards Group (FSG) janina at freestandards.org http://a11y.org If Linux can't solve your computing problem, you need a different problem.