I've had no trouble with the built-in alsa in the 2.6.xx kernels. The alsa version in 2.6.11 is the most current right now. In the 2.6 kernels you don't need make modules and make dep it all gets done with the make bzImage except for the make modules_install. I'm sure one of us would be happy to send you along a .config as a seed if you like. Kirk -- Kirk Reiser The Computer Braille Facility e-mail: kirk at braille.uwo.ca University of Western Ontario phone: (519) 661-3061