Trying to best answer the earlier question about Jupiter. Basicly, Jupiter is not right now exactly a screen-reader in the traditional sense like Vocal-eyes, Jaws, Speakup, YASR, or ASAP. Karl says it is working in line mode. Karl has had some requests, including mine for it to work in screen mode. Reason I even heard of jupiter was that I typed in to google dectalk linux dictionary Jupiter has very excelent dictionary support--and fairly well supports my decpc, however, because it is not really a screen-reader, I will experiment with oralux with yasr Lastly, Karl does have a yahoo group, called, commandline, where folks discuss jupiter--and other command-line apps Hope that helps Hart