I was merely stating that gnome has some useful programs written for it that can be made accessible with a bit of effort. I don't mean to bash Peter, he's a decent guy trying to do his best. BTW: I resigned my position at Freedom and am now working as a free agent and focusing on UI research. -----Original Message----- From: speakup-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:speakup-bounces at braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Kenny Hitt Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 9:24 AM To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Subject: Re: Slackware is dropping Gnome Hi. You posted this to the wrong list. You should post things like this to the gnome-accessibility-list or the gnome-accessibility-devel lists. I can say for sure that Peter Korn doesn't read this list. I believe most of the long time people on this list consider Gnome accessibility and Gnopernicus to be the Freedom Science Fiction of the Linux world. Kenny On Sat, Apr 02, 2005 at 09:02:55AM -0500, Chris Hofstader wrote: > I've been doing a lot of research on open source musical tools (sequencers, > synthesizers, mixers, etc.), a number are available in a text-only > configuration but quite a few require gnome. I have been thinking of > converting some of the gnome music tools that I want to use into self > voicing applications. I can hear Peter Korn screaming that I should do it > properly and add the gnome accessibility API to these programs but, alas, no > matter how loud I yelled or hard I pounded the table, the gnome API has no > realistic sense of relationship between objects and, for programs as complex > as these, it is not sufficient to deliver the rich contextual information > required to use such tools. Other parts of gnome will, however, be > necessary as I do not want to get into an entire rewrite of these apps > either. So, I find value in gnome just because I don't like unresolved > externals. > > I'm a firm believer in screen readers and avoiding self voicing, blind guy > ghetto, programs that segregate us from everyone else but, in this case, I'm > choosing expediency over philosophy. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: speakup-bounces at braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces at braille.uwo.ca] > On Behalf Of Kenny Hitt > Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 8:15 AM > To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. > Subject: Re: Slackware is dropping Gnome > > Hi. > Although the sighted community will be missing what seems to be a good > desktop, I don't think the blind community is missing much by not having > Gnome. > > Kenny > > On Fri, Apr 01, 2005 at 11:00:29PM -0700, Joseph C. Lininger wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Well, I maintain a mirror of slackware-current on my ftp server, and > > gnome has in fact been removed. I don't think they're joking folks. > > > > Equal causes can produce very unequal effects. > > Joseph C. Lininger > > jbahm at pcdesk.net > > Verification: 5eab38a77ac40416e075be8f50607ff7 > > > > And so it came to pass that on Fri, 1 Apr 2005, Adam Myrow said > > > > >On Fri, 1 Apr 2005, Gregory Nowak wrote: > > > > > >> Hmm, I suppose this could be an April fools joke, couldn't it? If it's > > >> not, then they certainly picked an interesting date to announce this. > > > > > >Actually, it was buried in with several other things dated 3/26/05, so > I'd > > >say it's no joke. I guess when the next version of Slackware comes out, > I > > >will be trying to download one of those other Gnome packages. Well, I > > >haven't gotten Gnopernicus to work in Slackware 10.1 anyway, but I > haven't > > >really put much effort into it. > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > >Speakup mailing list > > >Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) > > > > iD8DBQFCTjUDJ6dqn0mqPbARAt9qAJ9YPW2pYV3rHUYcyWCWCcr3zEoHqQCg8gM4 > > BuJPmk+HUGixG9XFkMXZK5E= > > =yVUL > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup at braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
