okay At 11:38 AM 9/28/2004, you wrote: >Jack Mendez writes: > > never said it could > > only spoke about the fact that it does keep the permissions of the files > > that it transfers. > >But he also wants to keep the ownership. That requires what he calls the >"meta" container, of which tar is a perfect choice. There are others. > >If there was any criticism in my post, it was only about whether it >answered the question. What you said is correct as far as you took >things, but you can't go the rest of the way because rsync is the wrong >tool for that job. It's the right tool for incrementally copying the tar >archive, though once it is created with owners and permissions data >intact, just as we've been saying. > > At 07:54 AM 9/28/2004, you wrote: > > >Not exactly. rsync will do as you say, but only if those users also > > >exist on the target system. It cannot create new user accounts, and > > >shouldn't be able to, either. > > > > > >Now that I've strayed into 'shoulds,' I suppose we could posit the > > >notion of rsync for passwd and shadow, but this just too wacky because > > >it's dangerous. > > >Jack Mendez writes: > > >> there are several ways to accomplish what you want to do, rsync has very > > >> helpful documentation, I'd suggest reading the manpages for it however, > > >> here are a few quick solutions > > >> rsync -av will preserve all permissions on the destination machine, and > > >> you will need to make sure when transferring this back to use the same > > >> switch > > >> if you are backing up entire file systems and are special files you > > >need to > > >> use the linkdest option so the files get transferred properly > > >> additionally you can also backup remote file systems nfs smb etc, using > > >> rsync but be careful about using permissions based transfers with this > > >data > > >> because sometimes particularly with windows based smb mounts, the rsync > > >is > > >> unable to preserve owner. > > >> > > >> Jack > > >> At 01:34 AM 9/28/2004, you wrote: > > >> >If rsync is used to backup data for multiple users, on to a system > > >whereon > > >> >the recipient for the files, is a single user, rsync will, of course, > > >set > > >> >the user and group of all files, to the recipient user. > > >> > > > >> >If dealing with a large number of users, it is less than ideal, to > > >create > > >> >all of the users on the target backup server. > > >> > > > >> >Is there any way to do such backups, in the rsync method, while still > > >> >preserving ownership data, but without creating all of the users > > >involved? > > >> >Some sort of meta ownership data. > > >> > > > >> >If not, what might be another method of doing this? > > >> > > > >> >_______________________________________________ > > >> >Speakup mailing list > > >> >Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > >> >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Speakup mailing list > > >> Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > >-- > > > > > > Janina Sajka, Chair > > > Accessibility Workgroup > > > Free Standards Group (FSG) > > > > > >janina at freestandards.org Phone: +1 202.494.7040 > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > >Speakup mailing list > > >Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > >-- > > Janina Sajka, Chair > Accessibility Workgroup > Free Standards Group (FSG) > >janina at freestandards.org Phone: +1 202.494.7040 > > >_______________________________________________ >Speakup mailing list >Speakup at braille.uwo.ca >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup