I just found some sample menu.lst files. Here's one with a lot of stuff in it but it shows a few lines with boot perameters after the kernel name and lines with windows 95 loaded, or one of those windows systems. http://www.antlinux.com/lifebook/menu.lst here's another posted at http://www.dewback.cl/files/public/confs/menu.lst how would you get lilo to talk? I may use it instead.