no, using ATAPI:1,0,0 didn't make any difference, and I am making coasters. apparently it maybe does start trying to burn the cd but then I get out-of-memory indications and things start getting killed off. I don't know if FC2 has something running that is sucking out that much memory or what the deal is, but I'm definitely frustrated. Does it take more memory to burn an audio cd than a data cd? Memory has never been an issue in burning audio cds in the past for me. I do have 256MB of memory. And I can run freedombox, which involves using X, without any problems of memory. So I'm puzzled. Since this worked fairly recently with debian, and I think I even did audio burning with the 2.6.8.1 kernel, either I've suddenly developed a memory problem or it's specific to Fedora Core 2 or there's something else I'm not taking into account. -- Cheryl "Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also."