If anyone can help with this one, we would greatly appreciate it. I was helping Larry Hart update a file sharing program, mutella, and we ran into some puzzling problems. It seems like his computer was set up for him with the command path arranged so that /usr/bin was searched before /usr/local/bin, and so when the upgrade was installed into /usr/local/bin, it could not immediately be found. The old version had been installed in /usr/bin, and so of course it was found first. We simply renamed the older executable to upper case, which permitted the new version to be found okay. But that's when the trouble started! The trouble is that now when he types a command to mutella, his keystrokes echo multiple times, an extremely confusing amount of feedback. I should add that I myself have installed the new version width no such problem. In fact I have never seen that problem in any applications on my own system. Larry tells me he used to see that problem, the multiple keystroke echos, in several other applications, including the older version of mutella, but someone figured out a fix for it. unfortunately he does not know what that fix was, and somehow between us we managed to break it. Does this make sense to anyone? Has anyone seen this multiple echoing of keystrokes before? Larry is using a Fedora Core 1 distro with a TCSH shell, with speakup and a Dectalk PC synthesizer. My own environment, which behaves properly under all these circumstances, is a Slackware distro, a Bash shell, speakup with a Doubletalk LT. (that's L T, not Lieutenant!) It's no wonder Good Samaritans are hard to find these days. If I have misstated the problem, perhaps Larry will provide more details. Oh -- one more possibly relevant clue -- when I log onto his system remotely and run his version of mutella, I see the same craziness remotely as he sees locally. But when I return to my own system and run the same version of mutella here, it works correctly. I think I'm getting too old for this shit. Chuck -- The Moon is Waning Gibbous (99% of Full) Home page at http://www.mhcable.com/~chuckh Speakfreely address 24.105.197.112:2074