Luke, If the script in which it does not work is run prior to your normal login, make sure the path is not the problem. Some of those utilities are located in /usr/local/bin, and sometimes bootup scripts do not have access to that directory. To be sure, include the explicit path to the utilities in the script and not just the utility names. Chuck -- The Moon is Waning Gibbous (88% of Full) Home page at http://www.mhcable.com/~chuckh Speakfreely address 24.105.197.112:2074