Thanks for the encouragement. I know I will eventually succeed, if I have to install a hundred times! I'm on my third time now. I'm still not sure how to do the "initrd", but I'll keep googling around and find the right howto. Regards, Ken -----Original Message----- From: speakup-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:speakup-bounces at braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of David Bruzos Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2004 7:15 PM To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Subject: Re: Installing Fedora - boot loader Hello Ken: Yes, you need a boot loader! If you don't install grub there will be no boot info in the master boot record of the hard disc and your BIOS will not see the operating system. So, when you get to the boot loader screen, select grub and put it to the MBR (master boot record). If you do that, you should be able to boot after you restart... About your other problem I am not sure. I have not installed Fedora in a while and I don't remember having any problems like yours. Don't get discouraged however, Linux is a wonderful thing and the community around it is even more wonderful. After a year you will be amazed of the things you can do with your Linux machine. It was hard at first for me, but once I understood what was going on, everything got easier and easier... David B. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kenneth Lee" <klee15@xxxxxxx> To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2004 6:25 PM Subject: Installing Fedora - boot loader Hello all, I've been trying all weekend to get Phedora installed. This is my first time to install any kind of Linux and well... It's not going well. I've been reading the howto's I found on linux-speakup.org but the description in the howto do not match with the screens I'm getting. The howto says nothing about what to do for the "boot load manager" (do I need the grub loader?) and at one point near the end, the howto says to press Alt+F2 and you'll get a "#" prompt. But I only get a /blahblah something prompt and it will not accept any commands. The last message from the install says it is safe to reboot, but when I did I just get the message "no operating system found". FYI, I'm trying to put this on a Dell GX1 500Mhz PC with 128MB ram and 12GB HD. I downloaded the 4 images from the linux-speakup page and varified they are good. I did the automatic partition because linux will be the only os on this system. The synthesizer is a DecTalk express. Thanks for any help. Ken -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.289 / Virus Database: 265.4.1 - Release Date: 11/19/2004 _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup at braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup at braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.289 / Virus Database: 265.4.1 - Release Date: 11/19/2004 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.289 / Virus Database: 265.4.1 - Release Date: 11/19/2004