Great. I'd like to be on your list. Also, it sounds like something I might want to add to our installation HOWTO. Joseph C. Lininger writes: > Hi, > I'm not trying to be mysterious or anything, but I am currently working on > a fix for that particular problem. I should have a beta version available > by the middle to end of the month. (November) > -- > Joseph C. Lininger > jbahm at pcdesk.net > Verification: 5eab38a77ac40416e075be8f50607ff7 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tom Moore" <tom at tomstroubleshooting.com> > To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> > Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 12:51 PM > Subject: Re: serial conversion with speakup > > > >Hi. > >There is a lot to be said for using software speech on laptops. > >I do it myself, but your forgetting about the problem of not being able to > >install the os on the laptop with out speech. > > > >Tom > > > >On Sun, Oct 31, 2004 at 09:38:32PM -0500, Janina Sajka wrote: > >>Frankly, I would just go with software speech--especially if you have a > >>decent audio system on that laptop and are able to play other audio > >>while getting software speech. > >> > >>To my mind any kind of attachment on a laptop is a nuisance, whether its > >>a serial cable to an external synth, or a pcmcia card plus the cable and > >>the hw synth, or a usb cable and synth for that matter. I believe > >>laptops are more easily used without extra appendages hanging off every > >>port. > >> > >>Lorne Webber writes: > >>> while we're on the topic of conversion into serial, another option that > >>> I'm > >>> thinking about is PCMCIA to serial. > >>> I too have a laptop that is sadly lacking a serial port, as well as > >>> Zack, I > >>> know at least one other person right off who doesn't have a serial port > >>> on > >>> their laptop. It looks like their going the way of 3 1/2 inch floppy > >>> drives > >>> on laptops, obviously I prefer having a floppy drive, and of course a > >>> serial > >>> port too. > >>> I'm afraid this is becoming a trend, and the community is going to have > >>> to > >>> adapt to it. > >>> obviously USB to serial is probably not the answer, but I found a > >>> company > >>> that manufactures PCMCIA to serial, and, I figure, Because they share > >>> electronic fundamentals with native bus architectures such as PCI and > >>> ISA, > >>> they function exactly like standard COM ports and should be able to be > >>> addressed as such by most application software. > >>> (of course that's also what the manufactures say about USB to serial > >>> converters), > >>> the address for the particular product I'm interested in is: > >>> http://www.quatech.com/catalog/rs232_pcmcia.php > >>> I'm curious what you folks think about this possibility, its drawbacks > >>> as > >>> well as its benefits. one benefit besides the obvious one if it > >>> succeeds, is > >>> that the frequency of a laptop not having both a serial and PCMCIA port > >>> is > >>> virtually unheard of, but again, I could be wrong, and If I am, please > >>> tell > >>> me. > >>> > >>> Thanks. > >>> Lorne > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Speakup mailing list > >>> Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > >>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > >> > >>-- > >> > >>Janina Sajka, Chair > >>Accessibility Workgroup > >>Free Standards Group (FSG) > >> > >>janina at freestandards.org Phone: +1 202.494.7040 > >> > >> > >>_______________________________________________ > >>Speakup mailing list > >>Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > >>http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Speakup mailing list > >Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Janina Sajka, Chair Accessibility Workgroup Free Standards Group (FSG) janina at freestandards.org Phone: +1 202.494.7040