Minor corrections: It turned out the list was not down, but had been blocked by my email service for about 24 hours. The information about the extra keystroke echoing came from a conversation on the speakfreely list, not on the speakup list. The suggestion made there was to check the environment variable "LANGUAGE" to be sure it has the value "C". But Fedora configuration details are outside my area of competence, so Larry needs help from a Fedora source. -- The Moon is Waning Gibbous (80% of Full) Home page at http://www.mhcable.com/~chuckh Speakfreely address 24.105.197.112:2074