subject says it all. Give this a try. for debian users, add speakupmain to /etc/modules for fedora users or slackware users, add speakupmain to whereever your modules are loaded from at boot time if you have speakup compiled as modules. if you however have speakupmain compiled into the kernel you can disreguard and try runnint the speechd_up init scripts you or I have made up. please give feedback. your mileage may vary. -- Shaun Oliver "I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed person." email: shaun.oliver at optusnet.com.au WEB: http://blindman.homelinux.org/~blindman/ IRC: irc.awesomechat.net:6666 IRCNICK: blindman