I've seen this problem as well and it's during a say screen that I notice it. I hadn't complained about it because I assumed kirk already knew about it. some of it could have something to do with the application interface people choose to use and so forth but that's just a guess. -- Shaun Oliver "I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed person." email: shaun.oliver at optusnet.com.au WEB: http://blindman.homelinux.org/~blindman/ IRC: irc.awesomechat.net:6666 IRCNICK: blindman