Now that the list is back up, I'm going to re-send my posts on this topic. I've gotten it at least basically talking, but right now am having trouble with how to implement rate and pitch variables. as you'll see from one of my re--sends, cepstral does support floats like epos and unlike dectalk. there are other problems, but this is what I'm trying to solve right now--pitch and rate. Will just resend posts with possibly a little editing. -- Cheryl "Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also."