They are that. Descriptions of both can be found in the ethernet howto. The question is: how do you connect the RJ45 plugs to the end of the cable? On Sat, 13 Mar 2004 talmage at somtel.com wrote: > Well memory may not serve too well. > I think those pairings are for a cross over cable to connect 2 computers > together without a hub. > Someone else on here can probably answer, but I think if you have a hub, > you just hook them straight through. > If you need to know the hook up, and no one knows off the top of their > head, I'll look it up, but I'd rather not as I just got a new computer > since my last 1 bit the dust and I'm still getting organized.