Am I just behind the times or is this a new development? The information on installing speakup talks about speakup.s and speakup.i but there's no speakup.i that I can find in kernels or in labels in isolinux.cfg. Of course, I didn't check this out until I'd tried unsuccessfully to boot with speakup.i several times. -- Cheryl "Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also."