-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Jun 21, 2004 at 07:40:02AM -0600, Dawes, Stephen wrote: > I think that black list providers also need to > be responsible and keep their information current. On the contrary. I think since the black list providers (in some cases) are doing this for free, it is the ISP's responsibility to keep black list providers up to date regarding their dynamic or static IP addresses. > I speak from personal experience, having being assigned a dynamic IP > address from my ISP that is on a black list. What is frustrating about > this is that the ISP will not provide a different IP address. > Like I've said before, the internet is being ruined for the rest of us, by those who don't know how to behave themselves. The same community that caused black lists to be created in the first place, is also causing ISPS to block out-bound smtp for people like myself. Think about it, if there were no spammers or virus spreaders, what are the chances that we would have black lists today? Of course, this implies that we would all be living in a perfect world, and we all know there is no such thing. As for your ISP not willing to give you a new IP address, from my point of view, you would have had 2 options: 1. Put pressure on them to get your IP off the black lists, which they can do. 2. If they refuse, switch ISPS (I know, easier said then done). Greg - -- Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager at EU.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFA1xhU7s9z/XlyUyARAiEwAKCixlcrbtsbhLqllTZFIF6KEiSlQgCggwQ7 QPeZTvlxGhlPddXM0k59TAs= =B8WX -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----