bastille talks but curses at least doesn't track well for speech using speakup at least. Also, bastille doesn't work on FC3 yet and that includes the beta version. I've been searching the internet as a whole not just onfreshmeat.net. I'll try an exclusive search and if I come up with any winners I'll share the wealth. Does anyone have an idea what the valid objection is to handling system hardening using the philosophy that the package when produced for linux and maybe nix to be more general will install on all flavors and on all versions. The package will detect what problems it can and offer to do what fixes it knows how to do. Then the package will offer to check for updates and download and run those updates if those updates exist using the same philosophy. I have been studying system hardening and have done much of what has been done on this system by hand, the only reason I'm interested in the system hardening packages is to find out if there's things I missed. and to be able to get those improvements done.