Free beer or free speech eh? I like that anology. On Mon, 26 Apr 2004, Chuck Hallenbeck wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > > My initial response to this thread was to cheer Igor for a > principled stand. Such stands are rare these days and usually > give way quickly to the need to "feed and clothe" as Doug has > said. And I still applaud Igor's raising the issue. > > But the most penetrating thing I have heard said so far is > Kenny's comments. The Gnome/Gnopernicus folks should have done > under GPL what Matt and colleagues have done for profit, and > still could if they wanted to. > > I am also amazed at the deeply conservative thread on here. I > thought I had left all that behind, but evidently not. I gather > that most of us use free software because it is like free beer, > not free speech. Too bad. The world only changes for the better > because of folks like Richard Stallman, Igor, and Kirk, to > mention just a few. > > That's my glass of whine for the day. > > Chuck > > On Mon, 26 Apr 2004, Kenny Hitt wrote: > > > > > Hi. From what I understand, Freedombox is using interfaces that are > > already a part of Mozilla. They haven't modified Mozilla, just written > > an app to use the accessibility interfaces in the browzer. You can > > write the same program if you want to learn the interfaces and take the > > time. > > Deciding to complain because someone else wrote a program you want (and > > can write for yourself) just makes you look bad and accomplishes > > nothing. > > > > The best thing to come from Freedombox is to show that the problem with > > Mozilla access isn't because of lack of hooks in Mozilla. If > > Gnopernicus doesn't give the same access to Mozilla as Freedombox then > > it is a Gnome/Gnopernicus problem instead of the "problem with Mozilla" > > the Gnome developers claim. > > > > I don't like using a commercial product to access Mozilla, but I've been > > promised access from the Gnome accessibility project for almost 2 years. > > Until I decide to write my own program, Freedombox will get my business > > just because they have results. Maybe there will be access from Gnome > > some day, but I'm not holding my breath. > > If you want to start demanding things from a group I think the Gnome > > Accessibility Project should be contacted first. At the least, > > demanding Gnome Accessibility stop over marketing their product would be > > a good thing. > > > > Kenny > > > > - -- > The Moon is Waxing Crescent (38% of Full) > My home page is now at http://www.mhcable.com/~chuckh > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) > > iQCVAwUBQIzmOjVdG8M9x9tGAQJMDgQAndTBO1lsW27knCAXUVgh9BZKK3aHlwYY > 3TnDQfKQAgU3OyK2ezxOJnavG5CsBSknGVgU3txb+cqzfG8Blbura66J2lENp5ua > EVoL308ialMYYenLaGdvkHtCLU1cQQehdYbJxEtaGUKGhCq8LLNT1IBIQrk53DB1 > t02SNDoHHpc= > =XQxA > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > -- -- Charlie Crawford
