hey kenny got gnome rowking and got gnopernicus to start. thing is, I didn't get it to talk. I turned off all the braille shit and magnifier shite but it doesn't want to talk. I'm using the version of gnopernicus and gnome2 that is in debian unstable/testing -- Shaun Oliver "I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed person." email: shaun.oliver at optusnet.com.au WEB: http://blindman.homelinux.org/~blindman/ IRC: irc.awesomechat.net:6666 IRCNICK: blindman