Hi Charles, Well now it seemeth that the new Seesaw option from Freedom Box might indeed have this thing licked. If you label the page affore I do, or if we can persuade old Matt to do it, that'd be super. He could probably label the thing in about two seconds. You may wanna explore Freedom Box's new features. It ain't designed for newbies and non computer folks any more. Yes, you do have to cound the four buttons, if you know the order they come in, you can just count them, but it'd be a heck of lot easier if they were labeled properly. Ann P. -- Ann K. Parsons email: akp at eznet.net WEB SITE: http://home.eznet.net/~akp "All that is gold does not glitter. Not all those who wander are lost." JRRT