Well, unfortunately that bit of makefile output was no more than a warning which wouldn't have made the compile crap out on its own. I checked out and tested the cvs version on 2.4.26 which worked flawlessly so I will need more information before I can be of any use to you. If you are going to post the broken bits you need to provide all the broken bits. Kirk -- Kirk Reiser The Computer Braille Facility e-mail: kirk at braille.uwo.ca University of Western Ontario phone: (519) 661-3061