Well, got the same results. when i built sound support into the kernel and modularized emu10k1, it didn't load itself; I had to load the emu10k1 and ac97_codec modules. then, as with unmodularized, saytime worked, but most applications which would be using /dev/dsp as output file, did not work. I've searched google and haven't found an answer that helps my case. But at least the commercial oss, which is what I was primarily using anyway, works fine. I only wanted to doublecheck with the kernel sound support and a 2.4 kernel 92.4.25) to make sure the problem with freedombox wasn't related to conflicts with commercial oss. And I also don't like unsolved mysteries. -- Cheryl "Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also."