Currently the only way to safely unload modules is to echo the new synth name and then do a modprobe -r after the synth has changed over. I told you there were still issues with the 2.6.x kernels of which there are two loading and unloading modules cleanly including the help module and cut and paste. I does no good asking me how long it will take to fix them because if it was something I could accomplish easily it would be done by now. They are both sticky problems I haven't been able to figure out so any volunteers wishing to step up and show me how it's done please by all means do. Kirk -- Kirk Reiser The Computer Braille Facility e-mail: kirk at braille.uwo.ca University of Western Ontario phone: (519) 661-3061