Cheryl, Last year I was able to listen to the live games for free in windows. If they've gone to a premium service you may be prompted for and id/password when you access the game. I looked quickly at the javascript but couldn't make much sense of it. I think they are using realplayer, and different things happen depending on your user-agent-string. I wonder whether mozilla under gnopernicus would give you any access? If I'm around, I'll give this a try on Sunday afternoon while the streams are playing. Maybe a bunch of us could each take one team and attempt to figure out the url to pass to trplayer. I'm puzzled that the javascript nut hasn't been cracked. The parsers and libraries exist, but no one has invested the time implement a version which would be useful to us. Maybe you can find out something about the "chain". The "cat" has a with-libjs option, but nothing was ever done with it. Chris