Hi listers: I know that speakup is gone from RH 8.0, but, when I run an update with the up2date program, it gets the latest kernel that 8.0 uses (2.4.20-something). Also, however, it gets something which identifies itself as v2.4.18.2780-debug (I may not have the punctuarion correct there), which still has speakup in it. Also, the 2.4.20 kernel is there without speakup, but, it is not the default grub option. Any caveats to this that I need to be aware of? The v2.4.18.2780 kernel seems to work ok, but, I know there were some issues with some other packages that needed 2.4.20. I may go ahead and play with the rh9 disks up on the ftp site, but, I am also curious about rh8 as well. Thanks!