On 09/08/03 3:14 PM +0100, L?onie Watson wrote: [snip] > > The typing echo is particularly awful. If I start to type in a > command in Emacspeak, I hear the first character repeated then a > series of "vertical bar, space, space etc." I'm nothing like > experienced enough to fathom any of this out and wonder if I'd be > better uninstalling Speakup temporarily whilst I get to grips with > Emacspeak? You might try killing speakup by pressing the key just to the right of f12 just before you start emacspeak. You can just press it again to bring speakup back when you're not in emacspeak. Good luck. -- Unix is a user friendly operating system. It just picks its friends more carefully than others. Thomas Stivers e-mail: stivers_t at tomass.dyndns.org gpg: 45CBBABD