scandisk in itself doesn't do all that much to msdos 7 to degrade it other than replace chkdsk, it's more the other things that were ripped out of dos between dos 6.22 and 7.00 and beyond that make the degradation really obvious especially to anyone using ethernet equipment. qbasic for screen reader users could be considered another degradation especially compared to gwbasic in terms of screen writing by default. The edit editor is another degradation since it replaced edlin too. Same reason as qbasic. Fortunately it's possible to have edlin work after doing a little work with setver on dos 7 or I'd have trashed windows even earlier. -- ----- Microsoft; mismanagement, and stupidity are all weapons of mass destruction.