Hi all, Luke, the whole point is that he isn't making any sense at all. I think he wants to, but can't. <sigh> It might be worth it to write him privately and see if I can sort out this tangle. At the moment, I think all that can be done with this thread is to play cat's cradle. Ann P. -- Ann K. Parsons email: akp at eznet.net WEB SITE: http://home.eznet.net/~akp "All that is gold does not glitter. Not all those who wander are lost." JRRT