Ok guys, I have a suggestion. Let's ignore the ignorant! My understanding of the anacronym gui is graphical user interface. As far as I know, and Kirk correct me if I am wrong, speakup DOES NOT operate ina graphical user interface environment. But hey that's just my understanding of the subject. I could be wrong and this idiot could be right. NOT! So as a suggestion, unless he sends on some sort of proof in the way of documentation himself and quits suggesting that we waste the time and effort to validate his claims, I believe that we should just ignore the ignorant. Just my 2 cents worth. Keith On 10:56 PM, kevin wrote: > Indeed I believe the use of language is not required. I assure you I am not > leading you astray. Ask any programmer about gui frameviewing as it relates > to sound. I can tell you I am not feeding you a load of "bull", as it were. > Kevin > email: > kjsisco at rcn.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Shaun Oliver" <shaun_oliver at optusnet.com.au> > To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> > Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2003 8:46 AM > Subject: Re: new alsa-tools releases! > > > > forget it guys he's bullshitting the lot of us. > > alsa stands for advance linux sound architecture. for those of you who > > don't know. > > so what the fuck sound ggot to do with frames I'm buggered if I know. > > he's talking defining frames on a gui app > > god sakes. > > let's drop this it's a crock of shit. > > > > > > at the risk of being > > helpful, Alex Snow delivered up the following on Sun, Oct 19, 2003 at > 08:39:51AM -0400, > > > and what does alsa have to do with speakup? > > > On Sun, Oct 19, 2003 at > > > 07:12:23AM -0400, Scott Howell wrote: > > > > Kevin, > > > > > > > > Are you referring to frames found on web pages? How will SPeakup know > > > > about this tool? SPeakup would have to know something about this tool > so > > > > is this something that will be loaded by the user or what? > > > > > > > > tnx > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Oct 19, 2003 at 12:24:54AM -0400, kevin wrote: > > > > > The frameviewer allows frames to be more easily recognized in > speakup > > > > > because let's be honist. Screen readers are a bit shaky with that. > Also, > > > > > you can specify which type of interface in an application (such as > mdi.) > > > > > This solves alot of issues. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > Speakup mailing list > > > > > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Speakup mailing list > > > > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Speakup mailing list > > > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > -- > > > Who is General Failure and why is he reading my hard disk? > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > -- > > Shaun Oliver > > "Becareful of the toes u step on today, they maybe connected to the ass > you have to kiss tomorrow!" > > > > EMAIL: shaun_oliver at optusnet.com.au > > ICQ: 76958435 > > YAHOO: blindman01_2000 > > MSN: blindman_2001 at hotmail.com > > AIM: captain nemo 200 > > IRC: irc.awesomechat.net:6666 > > IRCNICK: blindman > > CHANNELS: #awesomeradio #mircpopup-magic #linux #help #ourworld #audiofile > #mauisun > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Keith Watson kwatson at smed.yi.org Among the major impediments to discovery are not the ignorant but those with illusions of knowledge. - B. Alan Wallace