Well, at the risk of over doing my comments ... Kevin, your use of the mdi acronym is just as obscure. Checking with the technical dictionaries, I find two definitions for mdi: multiple document interface multiple device interface I still don't know which you mean. Shaun Oliver writes: > From: Shaun Oliver <shaun_oliver at optusnet.com.au> > > at the risk of being helpful, kevin delivered up the following on Sun, Oct 19, 2003 at 12:24:54AM -0400, > > The frameviewer allows frames to be more easily recognized in speakup > > because let's be honist. Screen readers are a bit shaky with that. Also, > > you can specify which type of interface in an application (such as mdi.) > > This solves alot of issues. > > I've never read so much faeces in my entire life. > kevin, we're not using a gui nore will we be any time soon. well, some > of us might be to play with gnopernicus but that's a different kettle of > fish. > there's no mdi on the console. not to my knowledge anyway. > do us a favour and stop sprouting pure unadulterated bunkum. > well may you ask why doth he flame so? > it's simple. unless you're prepared to put your money or lack there of > where your mouth is, and let us know exactly what you did rather than > create some ficticious app, and want to gain some recoginision for > something someone else did, I suggest you quit while you're behind. > > -- > Shaun Oliver > "Becareful of the toes u step on today, they maybe connected to the ass you have to kiss tomorrow!" > > EMAIL: shaun_oliver at optusnet.com.au > ICQ: 76958435 > YAHOO: blindman01_2000 > MSN: blindman_2001 at hotmail.com > AIM: captain nemo 200 > IRC: irc.awesomechat.net:6666 > IRCNICK: blindman > CHANNELS: #awesomeradio #mircpopup-magic #linux #help #ourworld #audiofile #mauisun > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Janina Sajka Email: janina at rednote.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 Director, Technology Research and Development American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) http://www.afb.org Chair, Accessibility Work Group Free Standards Group http://accessibility.freestandards.org