Yes Kevin, I had a look over the tools and after I had asked you about them in an E-mail you told me I must get them as they were somehow important to Speakup. Well to be honest I grabbed the package, read over the readme files, and honestly couldn't find anything in there that would be of any use to me. Of course this is me personally, but maybe I'm missing something. Looks like these packages were put together by others so you just pulled them together? tnx Scott