I found something that I suspect is trying to tell me something about my authorization problem. How do I know if aI am running secure Linux? What does Hard Links turned on mean? Here is what I found. The trouble is, you need to be some sort of lawyer to interpret it. People use to complain about this sort of thing when reading IBM mainframe manuals. Here is the description. Please tell me what this means, or if it applies to me. GNU/LINUX ISSUES GNU/Linux seems to be the most popular platform on which to run Mailman, which really shouldn't be a big surprise. Here are some hints on getting Mailman to run on Linux: If you are running secure_Linux, you probably have restricted hardlinks turned on. Gergely Madarasz says that this not only restricts hardlinks in /tmp, but also in any non +t directory. This can cause "Operation not permitted" errors in MailList.Save() -- you will see a traceback. You must turn restricted hardlinks off. This is also known under the name of Openwall Security Patches. There is a workaround for this problem, you can use securelinux_fix.py in the contrib directory (see the README.securelinux_fix.py). Note that the script will not work until you move it in your installed Mailman tree in the bin directory. Local Variables: mode: text indent-tabs-mode: nil End: Rejean Proulx Visit my family at http://interfree.ca MSN is: rejp at rogers.com Ham License VA3REJ