I grabbed ocrad 0.4 and for some reason it said it was a bz2 file, but I got it as a tar.tar. No harm I was able ot untar it and run configure and make no problems. I was even able to run the test, but when I ran make install I ran into some problems. I've not had the chance to trakc them down, but seems some bad command in the make install process. I think make got some arguments it didn't like, but will pass on any details once I've had a chance to figure out what's going wrong. Scott