Hello, it does in fact appear that the 1.5 tarball is gone. I have no idea why none of the folks I've checked with have removed it. I do not have another copy because someone else put it together for us. It was either Doug or Gene but I'm not sure which one. In any event if someone has a copy upload it to incoming and I'll put it back in place. I think I'll take a copy myself this time. 'grin' Kirk -- Kirk Reiser The Computer Braille Facility e-mail: kirk at braille.uwo.ca University of Western Ontario phone: (519) 661-3061