These gnome-install questions are probably more appropriate for the gnome-accessibility list. However, as long as the subject has come up, I'm curious what apps are accessible in the 2.4 release. My understanding is that mozilla is *NOT* and openoffice has limited accessibility. I'm sure that gnopernicus will become more stable over time, but until the applications are accessible you won't be able to do much with it. Another point is that gnopernicus installation is not for the faint of heart. If speakup presented similar challenges the size of the speakup community would shrink significantly. Let's give a here-here to the speakup team and console apps. Chris