Hi, If you can give me some more info on what problems you were having accessing the pdf manual maybe I can help since I've been there several times. by chance did it have something to do with the security settings? At 13:05 11/5/03, you wrote: >Janina: >Are pdf files for cell phone manuals considered to be meeting >accessibility? >I am having to have my cell phone manual brailled at my own expense. the >only way I could get it, other than print, was pdf. when i downloaded the >pdf and turned it into text, I think the columns on pages must have been >interwoven or something, because I'll get a sentence or part thereof of >one topic and then it switches to a sentence of another topic. It would >appear that there was some kind of formatting or columning that neither an >html translator or text translator could handle. >Ironically, the volunteer group transcribing my manual have found the pdf >file very helpful for the transcription--but I couldn't use it "out of the >box" so to speak. >the whole accessibility thing is rather strange, as there are increasingly >voice recognition and speech production in some way by these phones, but >those capabilities never extend to actual navigation of the menus and >reading of the display, etc. > > >-- >Cheryl > > >_______________________________________________ >Speakup mailing list >Speakup at braille.uwo.ca >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup