Thank you luke. If I had the money I'd use a business connection, but I don't. That is the problem with being a hobbyist. These business high speed connection are extremely expensive. I priced a simple ADSL connection and they wanted $179 a month. Rejean Proulx Visit my family at http://interfree.ca MSN is: rejp at rogers.com Ham License VA3REJ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Luke Davis" <ldavis@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2003 2:00 AM Subject: Re: RFC on solution to Rejean's situation > On Sat, 1 Nov 2003, Allan Shaw wrote: > > > 1: I don't by the need or justification for 2 modems either from a > > bandwidth or data transfer requirement. The cable modem alone is more than > > likely sufficient to meet and exceed the network requirements. > > I made the same comment, and posed the question, more than once. The last > time was earlier today, and after a long discussion, he has convinced me > of its value. > There are port blocking issues with the ADSL provider, and bandwidth > issues with the cable. Apparently, the cable connection simply does not > have the bandwidth to carry the necessary traffic. > > Now, if this were me, I would obtain either a 720K SDSL connection, or a > fractional T1, and be done with it all, but it's not me, and not my > finances. As far as I can see, he is doing it in the only way possible to > do it currently, without changing the amounts of money spent on > connections drastically. > > As such, I am going to try to assist the situation as-is, with the > understanding that I can't change the internet access situation. So I > either accept it and help, or don't accept it, and not help at all. I > choose the former solution. > > > 2: If you have 2 routers with 2 networks the 2 networks should be joined > > through the routers not having a system bridging the networks. > > Clarify this a bit... > > Are you saying that the two internal Windows networks should become one, > absorbing the Linux box? If so, I completely agree. My solution, while > granted of the sledge-hammer sort, does accomplish this. > > If you're talking about "joining" the DSL and cable connections via their > routers, I do not see exactly how you plan to pull that off. I don't know > what routing technology he has on site. > If he has a good one, with four or so ports, he could probably plug both > modems into this, and essentially do what I was suggesting, in a piece of > hardware. The question then is: what about the firewalling? > > > 3: Instead of trying to fix this problem with a sludge hammer, go out and > > get the right equipment, namely a new Firewall/router with a 8 port switch > > and connect all servers and workstations to this device, a single modem and > > then configure it to allow and direct the appropriate services to the > > appropriate server/workstation. > > There will not be a single modem. There has to be two as things stand, > and if a solution does not take this into account, it is not a solution. > > > 4: Personal opinion, I have rarely seen such a convaluded network > > configuration in nearly 20 years of working with networks, but this is only > > my opinion. > > You mean my suggestion, or the existing setup? > When I first came to this, I had never seen anything like the original > setup--two connected Windows networks, two separate access points, two > subnets, all connected, in a very odd balance. I'm trying to simplify > that, by getting everything on to a single subnet, for starters. > > Note, that the projects involving using old PCs as routers, using the > power of Linux's iptables configurability, is cheap routing technology, is > becoming quite common. You seem to suggest (maybe I read you wrong), that > doing this, regardless of the application I suggest, is, to expand upon a > letter, stupid. > I disagree with that, if indeed it is what you are saying. > Now, my application of the method may not be good, which is my entire > point in bringing it here, but the use of dedicated routing boxes in place > of hardware routers, is not new, and is highly tested. > > Luke > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
