I've just upgraded the box that the speakup list runs on the newer mailman seems to place the list description in the reply-to and the to: fields. I am not sure why maybe they thought that was a good ideea. Anyway, I may still might have to make some tweaks along the line to get everything just right again. Kirk -- Kirk Reiser The Computer Braille Facility e-mail: kirk at braille.uwo.ca University of Western Ontario phone: (519) 661-3061