>I seldom see a web page which actually has a legitimate use for frames. *snip* I've got a python script which uses frames to show thumbnails down the left, a title across the top and puts selected photos in the rest. Since it uses percentages to do the displays it makes the photos show up right regardless of the resolution of the monitor on which it's being displayed. It is possible that others use them for the same or similar reasons as well. Actually phrasing it correctly, I have a python script which generates html documents that ... Previously my wife was having to kick me and the kids off our computers to check the pics in multiple resolutions on monitors of different sizes. Anything can be abused or misused, that doesn't mean it doesn't have legitimate uses. Cecil