a few questions so my system is back running 2.4.18 someone mentioned reading the documentation for 2.4.20 well, i read the README looked at the Changes file and i didn't find anything about the new kernel or where the modules are stored. so i am back to a fresh system make mrproper make oldconfig make dep make zImage make modules make modules install i assume that is what i need to do as far as backing up my old vmlinuz file can i just rename it? how is that done this all assumes that speakup and the modifications from wpi are patched properly which they did the last time. in adition i compiled alsa-driver-0.9.3 and it appeared to create modules for individual cards in a sperate directory, do i just copy these into /lib/modules/2.4.x/kernel/driver/what-goes-here? thanks for all your help so far. Jack