Hi there. Your message was very informative. In fact I wasn't aware that it weighed 5 lbs. Nor was I aware of the whole thing regarding the flash card reader. And please do report your findings, as I and possibly others on this list may find an interest in them. May you code in the power of the source, may the kernel, libraries, and utilities be with you, throughout all distributions until the end of the epoch. On Sat, 3 May 2003, Saqib Shaikh wrote: > Hi > > I talked to someone I know at Papenmeier UK. He very much likes the > machines, but there are a few reasons he thinks noone else likes them. > > 1. Size. We're talking 2.something kg, or 5 pounds. That's the weight of > a laptop. In fact you can get laptops weighing 1.2 kg. In terms of size > you're talking 12 inches by 8 inches, which is also not all that small. It > is also made of aluminium and is "built like a brick". This may be good in > terms of not breaking if you crash into a brick wall, but it has its > disadvantages too. > > 2. Inconsistency of Linux. I think they should have done more to adapt > Linux for the Elba. They maybe should have put a slightly nicer user > interface on the underlying apps. He mentioned, for example, that new users > never understood why they should press ctrl+g for help in Pico, but ? in > Pine. I don't use these programs so don't know. But in general it doesn't > have the polish of the Keysoft suite of applications. > > 3. Upgrading the system is a pain - you have to download the file, unzip it > onto a flash card, and then boot from the flash card. Problems are that you > need to buy both a flash card, as well as a flash card reader for the PC. > > 4. While a minor point, it boasts all this network functionality. But > since they only have 16MB to play with you can only copy files to your PC, > but not from your PC (or maybe it was the other way around). In any case, > it is only one way. > > So, I still think it is a nice machine, and I'd probably still get it if I > had the money, due to its open nature. Many people on this list may also go > for it. But at the end of the day it comes down to whether you want a > powerful tool that you can do a lot with, or a beautiful, elegant box which > takes inputs and produces neat, precise output. > > I'll be seeing a demo of it for myself in a weeks time, and I'll report my > findings. > > Saqib Shaikh > Email me at saqibshaikh.com > Web site www.saqibshaikh.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >