Hi Kirk, Just tested speakup2 (cvs) with devfs and all works fine :) I can now use devfs wonderfully along with speakup... Thanks very much for that :) that was really the only thing holding me back from using speakup (cvs) on all my computers. -- Michael D. Curran www: http://redgum.bendigo.latrobe.edu.au/~mdcurran/ MSN: mick at jantrid.net ICQ: 113763334 AIM: manchi2003