I've been messing around a bit with the new window feature for CVS speakup and the lower right or second cordinate seems to be off by several charactor positions now. the other day it seemed off by only one position but now, it is several. The examples I was playing with were single lines where I started with the left most position and then moved over to the right position I wanted. Example for me would be the mutt status line. #define CVSVERSION " CVS: Wed Apr 30 19:12:43 EDT 2003 " -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html