I would like to dial either wvdial or /sbin/ifup ppp0 without having to be root. wvdial is working, as root but I can't dial as a user. I setup PPP0 and in that gave all users the right to start and stop the operation, but this doesn't seem to do the job. I did setup kppp for my gui users so they don't have to have root password to dial ISP. Thanks Ron -- Ron Marriage Home Page http://www.seidata.com/~marriage/ Blind Links http://www.seidata.com/~marriage/rblind.html Linux http://www.seidata.com/~seilug/ Email mailto:marriage at seidata.com