Okay, guys, this discussion is mostly pointless, and is serving no purpose. I started it, because my DEC was saying something abnormal for Z. It wasn't "zed", but was something else. After checking the character file, I now see that it was "Z e h d", or something of the sort, which is pronounced oddly on the DEC Express, not as "zed". I guess that "zed" is pronounced incorrectly on what ever synth this was tested on, and thus the H was necessary. However on the DEC, it sounds more like "Z e f p t". This said: can we move on now? I still can't install from the CVS copy. Luke